Overboard to Dodge $16K?! Cruise Chaos, Vacation Rules & Wingsuit at 62 😂🌴 | Sunburnt Ep. 31

**Thomas** (00:00:00:00 - 00:00:07:06): What up burnt ones. This is the Sun Burnt podcast where we talk about comedy and tropical travel. Chip. We've got a jam packed episode. **Chip** (00:00:07:06 - 00:00:09:21): Chock full of wisdom. **Thomas** (00:00:09:23 - 00:00:17:00): So much wisdom. We're talking about a cruise passenger that had the wisdom to jump overboard on purpose. **Chip** (00:00:17:01 - 00:00:17:21): Splash! **Thomas** (00:00:17:21 - 00:00:37:13): What a juicy story there. We're talking about social norms travelers are ditching on vacation. We've got more world records. We've got more sunburnt. Podcast vacation rules. And we're talking about the man, Mr. Jimmy Buffett. We've dug up some juicy Jimmy Buffett facts. **Chip** (00:00:37:16 - 00:00:41:13): This podcast is a Jimmy Buffett fax machine. **Thomas** (00:00:41:15 - 00:00:59:05): We really are putting them together in the factory, in the lab. We got a big machine that churns up the facts. My co-host as always, you know him from Netflix and his unbelievable sound. A special move closer. It's Philadelphia's own chip chantry. **Chip** (00:00:59:07 - 00:01:07:23): And over here, TV writer, Emmy Award winner and three time all county Connect Four champion Thomas O'Brien. **Thomas** (00:01:08:04 - 00:01:19:12): I can connect all four. Like nobody's business. This is the sunburnt podcast where we talk about comedy and tropical travel. If you like those two things, stay tuned. Front desk. **Chip** (00:01:19:12 - 00:01:26:00): Hi, this is Mr. Chantry in room 308. I'm having a little trouble with my cable television. Could you tell me what channel spike TV is on? **Thomas** (00:01:26:02 - 00:01:30:13): Mr. Chantry, spike TV hasn't been around since, like, 2018. **Chip** (00:01:30:17 - 00:01:34:15): Oh my God. What year is it? How long have you been asleep? **Thomas** (00:01:34:17 - 00:01:38:00): That explains the frosted tips. Chip. **Chip** (00:01:38:01 - 00:01:40:04): Tommy! **Thomas** (00:01:40:05 - 00:01:56:08): Dude, we are sitting here. Episode 31. Chip. Can you believe it? Episode 31 of the Sun Bird podcast. We are. And you know. Pardon the, the juvenile ness, but we are 69 days away from Chip Chantry. Is Thanksgiving in Paradise? **Chip** (00:01:56:10 - 00:02:12:16): It's wild. Just over two months. You and I, we're going to be sitting toes in the sand in Waikiki. I'm going to be doing a couple of shows. I'm. I'm so psyched. I'm so psyched. We got some people coming out. We want you guys to come out if you are. If you're thinking, man, I gotta make some vacation plans. All right, I gotta make some Thanksgiving plans. We have them come to Hawaii with us. You're like, can I do that? Yes, you actually can. And, I'm ready. Man, I'm so psyched. **Thomas** (00:02:21:18 - 00:02:43:03): I think about it every day. Me and my wife are talking about it. If you can come. Come on out. Tickets are, You can find them on sunburnt podcast.com. We have a ticket section, and you can also find them on the Blue Note hawaii.com website. November 26th. Man two shows. It's going to be awesome. And then we're just going to spend the whole week doing cool stuff. **Chip** (00:02:43:05 - 00:02:43:19): Yeah. **Thomas** (00:02:43:21 - 00:02:52:12): On Hawaii, it will be something you will not regret doing if you can make it happen. But, Chip, we got other big news going on here. **Chip** (00:02:52:13 - 00:02:53:05): Huge news. **Thomas** (00:02:53:10 - 00:02:55:07): We crossed a million views, Bud. **Chip** (00:02:55:08 - 00:03:02:06): Look at us. Look at us now. That means 2 million eyeballs, at least. I'm going to say close to it on average. **Thomas** (00:03:02:06 - 00:03:04:22): About on average, it probably would, but you never know. **Chip** (00:03:05:00 - 00:03:09:06): Yeah, I'm going to say about a million, 1.9 million eyes. **Thomas** (00:03:09:07 - 00:03:28:19): I think that's safe. 1.9 is probably pretty safe. Yeah. I think that's, playing the numbers the right way, but yeah, it's just, two guys. I mean, we've worked on a lot of stuff. We've made a lot of shows, and that's not a ton of views for like a television show. But for the two of us talking shop about tropical travel and comedy on. **Chip** (00:03:28:19 - 00:03:30:22): This new thing called the interweb. **Thomas** (00:03:31:00 - 00:03:34:08): Invented by a young whippersnapper, al Gore. **Chip** (00:03:34:10 - 00:03:34:20): Yes. **Thomas** (00:03:34:22 - 00:03:54:04): Yeah, we're we're in new, new territory. But yeah, I don't know. It's kind of cool. It's kind of cool. That's a big number. That's a lot for two dudes just talking. To get and thank you so much for, for hanging out with us, for finding something cool here. We really enjoy it. That's exciting. Also equally as exciting. **Chip** (00:03:54:05 - 00:04:01:18): I'm very excited about it. I want to be honest with you. I am, I am I was excited about the million views. I'm very excited about what's about to happen right now. **Thomas** (00:04:01:19 - 00:04:13:13): New piece of set decoration. Got the Alpha Tiki mug. My, my little brother sent it to me. Thought it might look good on the podcast, and, gosh dang it, I think it looks pretty darn good. **Chip** (00:04:13:14 - 00:04:16:19): Little ceramic Gordon Shumway wearing a Hawaiian. **Thomas** (00:04:16:21 - 00:04:29:00): He really is. And you explained to me he didn't always wear a Hawaiian. He had to go through a metamorphosis where he started off as a naked little alien. And it is him being just a Hawaiian shirt wearing party animal. **Chip** (00:04:29:04 - 00:04:31:10): Just a burnt one. Yeah, an absolute burn. **Thomas** (00:04:31:10 - 00:04:39:23): One. Now, is it true, do you think that he had actually put on a couple elbows and was just trying to disguise the new girth? **Chip** (00:04:40:01 - 00:04:57:14): Some say, because, you know, we don't know his species exactly. Some say that he may have been expecting, just like when you see somebody like a woman in a in a TV show and, like, they're carrying, like, a big box in front of them the entire season for some reason, Why do you always have that laundry basket in front of you? Interesting. Because. Yeah. So I think, in his mo mckeon's, I think they can both the males and females can reproduce. So I'm gonna I'm going to think that in later episodes end the gestation period very long for, for a male McKeon, that it took maybe like two episodes and he had to wear those Hawaiians the entire time. **Thomas** (00:05:18:13 - 00:05:23:02): He really laid it all out there and, adapted to our lifestyle. **Chip** (00:05:23:04 - 00:05:27:13): The man was a trendsetter, I'm going to say. That was for the 1980s. Yes. **Thomas** (00:05:27:15 - 00:05:32:11): All right. If we haven't alienated everybody, we'll jump off. Alf, how about that? **Chip** (00:05:32:12 - 00:05:33:00): Let's do it. **Thomas** (00:05:33:02 - 00:05:34:14): How's your weekend, man? Do you have a good weekend? **Chip** (00:05:34:15 - 00:05:52:07): It was, Yeah, it was good. It was busy. I started, you know, I teach stand up comedy classes. I taught a standup comedy class. I did a show. Shout out to Meredith Steyer, who is a comedian in the Philadelphia area. She, has this house out about an hour outside Philly. It's this big, beautiful, farmhouse. And, we did this outdoor. She puts on this, like, outdoor comedy festival every year. Bunch of comedians, bunch of audience members just out in her, like, Narnia. Kind of. I made a joke that it looked like Love Island Doylestown. Like it was like. It's just. It was like, you know, there's a little trellis. It looked like looked like an out picture in a beautiful outdoor wedding. But, in the like in the woods. But we did comedy instead, and it was great. Dude. **Thomas** (00:06:21:02 - 00:06:22:00): That's unbelievable. **Chip** (00:06:22:04 - 00:06:27:08): And I gotta say this to even last night, we're recording this on a on a Tuesday. Yeah. Day, as I like to call it. **Thomas** (00:06:27:14 - 00:06:29:23): There we go. **Chip** (00:06:30:01 - 00:06:48:13): But last night I went on a little vacation of my own. I think it's the vacation mindset. I've been just getting so much more into this over the months that we've been doing this podcast. And the wife and I just she made some, the wife came home, made some dinner, made some, maple glazed salmon. **Thomas** (00:06:48:16 - 00:06:49:23): That oh, my goodness. **Chip** (00:06:49:23 - 00:07:01:09): Just slathered with maple glaze. Wow. Yeah, yeah. So we had that. And then we were like, what are we going to do? We're just going to, you know, watch some Netflix. We're going to do whatever. And I was like, let's just go for a walk. I could do some steps. **Thomas** (00:07:01:14 - 00:07:02:19): Yeah. **Chip** (00:07:02:21 - 00:07:19:00): And we just went for a walk and we went to your favorite street in Philadelphia, Passyunk Avenue, that one that's on the average 45 degree angle, baby. And we got down to the that fountain that you saw right when we made that, when we went down to get that coffee. That you like that time you were over here? That fountain. We just sat there, and it was just this beautiful night. The sun's going down like this. We're a ten minute walk from home. Yeah. Sitting around this fountain, there's a man playing guitar and singing like he's just kind of busking, doing his thing. It's amazing. And we just sit there and we're just like, let's just. Instead of, like, walking too much farther, let's just sit, enjoy. I felt like I was on vacation, and then Thomas, just God opened up the heavens and dropped an 85 year old lady named Gloria right next to us. Gloria's Gloria. Gloria. 00:07:52:04 - 00:07:53:21 UNRESOLVED – Gloria just plopped. Down next to. She's like, do you mind if I sit next to you? You know? So yeah, I was like, oh, yeah, sure. Go ahead. And then she basically like, right away she was like, oh, thank you for letting me sit with you. I'm all alone. I don't, you know, so I'm not going to take up much space and then but then she's also, you know, she got her cane, everything. She said, I'm all alone. And then she, for the next 45 minutes, tells us her life story. Wow. To the backdrop of this beautiful fountain and the sunset and this music playing. And we were just enthralled the entire time. And it was like it was just like an evening on vacation, just ten minutes from our house. So you can go on vacation anywhere. I recommend coming to Hawaii this Thanksgiving, but just I got in that vacation mindset for about an hour last night and it was the best. **Thomas** (00:08:38:06 - 00:08:56:20): Now I love it. You're a little quicker to really mix it up with a stranger when you're in that vacation mindset, too. By the end of your conversation, had Gloria conveyed to you what life is and what it's like, particularly in regards to boxes of sweets and or chocolates? **Chip** (00:08:57:00 - 00:09:15:18): I mean, if you really want me to get into the nitty gray. Thomas. Yeah. She used a metaphor. And that box of chocolates was as if it was life. We had some Gump action last last night. She was doing most of the storytelling. It wasn't me, the young man telling her the story, but it was she. She paid it forward, is what I'm saying, I love it. **Thomas** (00:09:18:06 - 00:09:20:04): Well, I'm glad you had that experience. That sounds awesome. **Chip** (00:09:20:08 - 00:09:21:00): How was your weekend, man? **Thomas** (00:09:21:06 - 00:09:44:08): It was cut out. It was good. It was a little overcast here. It's like kind of that turning point in the year where it goes from being beautiful every day to where we're getting some hit or miss with the, cloud coverage, which I can't complain too much. Southern California. Sure. But I did have a beach trip, derailed by slightly on ideal weather. **Chip** (00:09:44:09 - 00:09:47:18): Now, is it because rain was going to come or you just don't like to be out there in the in the cloud? **Thomas** (00:09:47:18 - 00:09:50:05): No, it's just like, why go if it's not perfect? **Chip** (00:09:50:06 - 00:09:50:14): Yeah. **Thomas** (00:09:50:14 - 00:10:02:23): We call it an audible. Took the baby to see some animals and, that was a great experience too. But I had my heart set on the beach, and it was the first time this year the weather was like. Now you're not going, buddy. **Chip** (00:10:02:23 - 00:10:09:19): Now, you said you took your daughter. She's mad, madam. So I'm. I'm hoping this was like a certified zoo situation. **Thomas** (00:10:09:21 - 00:10:14:22): I mean, it, it's almost it's almost something I really want to talk about. **Chip** (00:10:14:23 - 00:10:17:04): It's just a house of a guy, you know? **Thomas** (00:10:17:04 - 00:10:17:14): Yeah. **Chip** (00:10:17:14 - 00:10:19:05): He's got a couple llamas in the basement. **Thomas** (00:10:19:05 - 00:10:29:08): Well, I mean, and, like, it's, it's a situation where, like, there's a zebra had stapled to an octopus body, right? I mean, real unique creatures. **Chip** (00:10:29:14 - 00:10:31:05): Yeah, creativity. **Thomas** (00:10:31:08 - 00:10:38:06): I don't I hope it's not damaging, the baby's perception of what's normal. **Chip** (00:10:38:07 - 00:11:01:12): You need to, show her the world that's out there, you know, whether it's whether it is a beautiful sunset on the beach, whether it is some elephants at the zoo, or is it just a dingo in a guy that you took an improv classes with? Basement, you know? Yeah. Okay, let me say this. If you can impart this to your daughter. Yeah. Something that I learned that just last night. Life is like a box of chocolates. Okay. **Thomas** (00:11:09:07 - 00:11:20:05): What? Yeah. We'll have to explain. What? Chocolates? Our first. She knows better. What? Horse octopuses than a box of chocolates. At this point in their life. **Chip** (00:11:20:07 - 00:11:24:08): I gotcha. That's the healthy way to do it. Her dentist is going to is going to really appreciate that. **Thomas** (00:11:24:08 - 00:11:35:09): I really do hope so. But yeah, it's, you know, I think while the minds are still young, get them in the same room as somebody who's really taken apart a lot of thermometers breathed in that mercury. **Chip** (00:11:35:10 - 00:11:36:17): Get that mercury up there. Yep. **Thomas** (00:11:36:17 - 00:11:39:21): And then made some art of their. **Chip** (00:11:39:21 - 00:11:44:10): Own, some kids watched Daniel Tiger. She watches The Island of Doctor Moreau. **Thomas** (00:11:44:12 - 00:11:47:10): Why not look through the looking glass? You know what I mean? Yeah. **Chip** (00:11:47:12 - 00:11:48:15): That's exactly. **Thomas** (00:11:48:17 - 00:11:49:20): Okay. I'm aboard. Speaking of different ways of looking at things, buddy, tell me about this cruise passenger that just hopped right over the side. A railing of the cruise they were on. This is fascinating to me. **Chip** (00:12:05:13 - 00:12:19:07): I've just become so much more fixated on the idea of a cruise, and we've gone back to this before, like we are vacation guys. Neither of us have ever actually been on a cruise, per se. We're always. We're always on terra firma. Thomas. **Thomas** (00:12:19:07 - 00:12:22:00): Yeah, on solid ground. **Chip** (00:12:22:02 - 00:12:39:12): And, it's just the happenings, the chicanery, if you will, the shenanigans that happen on cruise ships. I'm, I was very anti and I just, I feel like just go in with the idea of you are on a wild pirate ship. **Thomas** (00:12:39:16 - 00:12:40:00): Yeah. **Chip** (00:12:40:00 - 00:12:41:07): And anything can happen. **Thomas** (00:12:41:07 - 00:12:55:02): It's the new Wild West. It's the sailing wild West. People step on these ships to not be themselves for a while. And it sounds like things are getting out of control. There's something trending this morning. We record on Tuesdays. **Chip** (00:12:55:04 - 00:12:55:09): Yeah. **Thomas** (00:12:55:09 - 00:13:03:06): And, apparently there was another one of those unfortunate brawls that was so bad. The ship had to turn back around. **Chip** (00:13:03:08 - 00:13:11:05): Can you imagine being that captain? Like, just having to be the dad on that ship and literally turn this car around. **Thomas** (00:13:11:06 - 00:13:29:05): But also people are, like, seriously injured, potentially. Like that is I mean, that is Wild West stuff. That's the kind of thing that happened in a three, you know, three building town. Yeah. This is even taking it to another level of calculated behavior on a ship. Pretty wild. **Chip** (00:13:29:06 - 00:13:49:11): All right. So I don't know if I'm saying his name correctly. It's g y. I don't know if it's J. I'm going to say j j. Gonzalez. Diaz. He's the guy's name. Okay. He was on a ship from Puerto Rico, a cruise ship, a Royal Caribbean cruise ship from Puerto Rico to Barbados and back because they bring it back. **Thomas** (00:13:49:11 - 00:13:50:19): Most cruises are round trip. **Chip** (00:13:50:19 - 00:14:18:15): Apparently, J owed a little bit of money in some gambling debts to the cruise ship itself, and, decided he's not going to pay that. So, what do you do when you don't want to pay your debt? It's. Yeah. Dine and Dash is exactly what he did. He gambled and jumped. He literally jumped overboard to dodge his $16,000 gambling debt and was like, I'm out. And I guess you can do that with a cruise ship. And in international waters. I think that that is something that, again, I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, but I'm not saying it's the wrong thing to do. **Thomas** (00:14:29:14 - 00:14:30:18): Oh my gosh. **Chip** (00:14:30:18 - 00:14:52:12): So here's what happened. So they are basically back in Puerto Rico, which is, you know, a part of the United States. They're they're just about docked, I guess, and they have been boarded by U.S. customs and Border Protection. And like they do the checking of like, you know, declaring goods all that's all that stuff yet. Oh, I didn't bring a spider monkey back from Ecuador or whatever. **Thomas** (00:14:52:12 - 00:14:53:08): Bushmeat. **Chip** (00:14:53:10 - 00:14:54:04): Bushmeat? Yes. 00:14:54:07 - 00:14:54:16 UNRESOLVED – No. No bushmeat this time. And, I guess he was like, so he didn't want to have to face up because he had some other winnings, I think maybe from Barbados that he won. And then he also owed stuff. So he's like, you know what? I'm out, jumps over, decides he's going to swim to shore. I guess. A guy. Passing by on a jet ski just happens to pick them up. I don't think it was an accomplice. I think it was just, a hero. Jet ski man. Yeah. Which you don't hear that term very much. Not a lot of guys on jet skis. I would consider heroes. **Thomas** (00:15:28:01 - 00:15:35:02): Like imagine, like a detective that primarily uses a jet ski. Like a somebody who fights crime on a jet ski. **Chip** (00:15:35:02 - 00:15:35:13): Jet ski. **Thomas** (00:15:35:13 - 00:15:37:17): Crime. I think it's interesting. **Chip** (00:15:37:19 - 00:15:42:05): I would watch that show. I would, I would watch that. Yeah. I ever been on a jet ski before? **Thomas** (00:15:42:05 - 00:15:45:18): Hell yeah. The jet skis are super rad. **Chip** (00:15:45:20 - 00:16:02:04): Yeah. They're wild as, my friend Josh got them and, said on Twitter years ago, he's like, I don't know why they're called jet skis, not motorcycles. Like me. I was on, I think, one once and it was great. It was just you're just flying. Flying across those. There's I always like it always freaked me out though. Do you remember these back in, like, the 80s when they really became a thing? Yeah, I was like a kid. There was two styles. There was the jet ski, where you sit on it like a motorcycle. Like we see now. Yeah. And then there was ones that you would like stand on it and like, it was almost like a Segway, but it was a it was a jet ski. Yeah. Then those always kind of freak me out. **Thomas** (00:16:20:20 - 00:16:27:06): Honest to goodness. Like, I remember figuring out what like the purpose of both of those were. **Chip** (00:16:27:08 - 00:16:28:04): **Thomas** (00:16:28:06 - 00:16:43:13): And what made sense in my mind as a child in the 80s. Was that the ones you stand up on looked more like dolphins. And then you were supposed to ride those around dolphins, I think. **Chip** (00:16:43:16 - 00:16:57:06): I think the mind of a 1980s Thomas O'Brien is filled with wonder and merriment and I, I it's like it's it's like your daughter having that, raccoon head on a jellyfish body. **Thomas** (00:16:58:22 - 00:17:00:22): So I'm explaining to do. **Chip** (00:17:01:00 - 00:17:17:14): Yeah. Oh, I was talking to a guy. Just day. Totally off topic. We'll get back to the cruise in a second. All right. I was talking to a guy who was vacationing. You ready for this? I forgot to tell you this. He was vacationing in LA for a little while. Okay? He was at Manhattan Beach and got stung by a jellyfish. **Thomas** (00:17:17:16 - 00:17:18:11): Oh, really? **Chip** (00:17:18:17 - 00:17:30:19): Oh. Manhattan Beach? Yes. Wow. And, you know, I mean, I don't know the guy too well. He said he did that. I don't know exactly what the ramifications were, but, I guess watch out for jellyfish, Tommy. **Thomas** (00:17:30:20 - 00:17:35:08): During certain times of years, they're all over the sand, okay? They they wash up. **Chip** (00:17:35:10 - 00:17:38:13): Or, you know, maybe one of his friends just swam under and just kind of pitched his leg a little. Bit. She used to play jellyfish bite all the time. Right? As a as a youngster. Jellyfish. But, It's a game. **Thomas** (00:17:47:03 - 00:17:54:18): Yeah. I mean, it sounds like a good game. It sounds like it also, I don't know, I'm not not calling this guy a liar. **Chip** (00:17:55:00 - 00:17:55:18): Right. **Thomas** (00:17:55:20 - 00:17:59:12): But some people do like that jellyfish. Attention. **Chip** (00:17:59:14 - 00:18:06:00): Yeah, I think it's Munchausen. Jellyfish. Disorder MJ day. **Thomas** (00:18:06:02 - 00:18:16:18): So this happened theoretically a couple of weeks ago. This is the barometer of where I'm going to decide if it's real or not. Okay. Was he still trying to get you to relieve yourself on his jellyfish? **Chip** (00:18:16:18 - 00:18:20:01): But he asked me a number of times during the conversation if I would. **Thomas** (00:18:20:01 - 00:18:22:12): So I think he might. Be might be making. **Chip** (00:18:23:21 - 00:18:24:05): Okay. **Thomas** (00:18:24:10 - 00:18:33:13): I might be making that up for ulterior. Ulterior reasons. Yeah. But God bless him. From getting down to Manhattan Beach, it's it's my favorite. **Chip** (00:18:33:15 - 00:18:36:15): My favorite foods. Like his favorite place that he's ever been. Yeah. **Thomas** (00:18:36:16 - 00:18:41:05): Yeah, yeah. It's it's the best. It's very long. Sandy beach. **Chip** (00:18:41:07 - 00:18:42:00): Yeah. **Thomas** (00:18:42:02 - 00:18:44:15): Very nice people down there for the most part. **Chip** (00:18:44:17 - 00:18:45:12): Yeah. **Thomas** (00:18:45:14 - 00:18:51:13): The water's been ridiculously warm. If it's not too full of bacteria to get inside. **Chip** (00:18:51:15 - 00:18:59:12): Of course. I mean, one drawback, that's all I have is just loads and loads of bacteria. But other than that. Come on. That's why we have pharmaceuticals. Tommy. **Thomas** (00:18:59:14 - 00:19:00:20): Exactly. **Chip** (00:19:00:22 - 00:19:03:20): So, speaking of speaking of getting stung. **Thomas** (00:19:04:01 - 00:19:04:17): Yeah. **Chip** (00:19:04:19 - 00:19:10:03): Let's get back to this guy who almost got stung. Jumping off a cruise ship, **Thomas** (00:19:10:05 - 00:19:15:11): In a carnival is Royal Caribbean. Is that who the Royal Caribbean? **Chip** (00:19:15:11 - 00:19:16:11): Yeah. Jumps off. **Thomas** (00:19:16:12 - 00:19:21:05): It was more of a sting, a gambling sting than a jellyfish. **Chip** (00:19:21:05 - 00:19:40:01): Gambling sting? Yeah. So some guy just picks him up on a on a jetski. It just, like, takes him to shore. He, like, make gets away, but then they catch him literally by, like, the town hall or like the city hall of, I think San Juan, which is like, if you're going to hang out, why hang out right there, right now? But they they finally caught up to him in his pockets. Right now I'm going to I can't guess the contents of your pockets right now. Yeah, but I can tell you what was in this guy's pockets. $14,000 in cash. **Thomas** (00:19:51:18 - 00:19:53:09): Holy cow. **Chip** (00:19:53:11 - 00:19:56:17): Two phones and five IDs. **Thomas** (00:19:56:19 - 00:19:58:07): Oh, my God. **Chip** (00:19:58:09 - 00:20:04:13): And I'm hoping that they were in Ziploc bags. That's what I want to say. Because he did. Yeah, in the Caribbean. **Thomas** (00:20:04:14 - 00:20:10:04): He jumped in the drink. That's that's a lot of cash. So he was carrying 14 K. **Chip** (00:20:10:05 - 00:20:10:19): Yes. **Thomas** (00:20:10:21 - 00:20:17:00): And he had jumped overboard to avoid 16 K gambling debt to the cruise line. **Chip** (00:20:17:01 - 00:20:33:04): Right. You think that you're just like, hey, just let's break even for this trip. But basically what happened was he he won a little over $14,000 and didn't want to claim it because you would have to like claim when you get it. Like with the U.S. customs, you have to pay like taxes on it. Yeah, he did want to pay the taxes. Plus on top of that 14, he also owed over 16,000 to Royal Caribbean for gambling and casino related deaths that he got expenses from there. So you know, so he's trying to get the best of both worlds. He does want to deal with either. But they got him. He is now facing. He can now face, this this little, what I like to call DB Cooper. Jumping off the ship, he could, he was booked. He was released on bail, which I think is a little risky. Yeah, he's already jumped off a cruise ship. And you're going to let him? I don't know, but. Okay. **Thomas** (00:21:13:15 - 00:21:16:04): Do do we know what the bail was? **Chip** (00:21:16:06 - 00:21:26:02): No, I don't know. But I do know that he. He could face up to a quarter million dollars in fines and up to five years in prison. **Thomas** (00:21:26:04 - 00:21:30:06): And this is largely for evading the taxes, not for ripping off the cruise company. Right. **Chip** (00:21:30:06 - 00:21:41:12): Or jumping off a cruise ship, apparently. I think they're like, yeah, he jumped off cruise ship. Oh, well, good. I'm not saying jump off cruise ships, guys. I'm not saying to do that. But I don't feel like that was the worst of his sins. **Thomas** (00:21:41:14 - 00:21:43:19): Yeah. Yeah. **Chip** (00:21:43:21 - 00:21:56:07): So I but you look at the guy in this crazy story, I think we can say Thomas, I think we have all, all of us at one time or another have jumped off a cruise ship to avoid a $16,000 gambling. **Thomas** (00:21:56:09 - 00:21:58:00): Titanic gambling debt. **Chip** (00:21:58:01 - 00:22:15:15): And, if you enjoyed this story, you're going to love the follow up, which this fall look out for on Netflix is the three part documentary of this crime entitled Boats and Owes. 00:22:15:17 - 00:22:16:03 UNRESOLVED – So, before we move on, I just want to say. And I just wanna get serious for a second here. I know gambling is a serious thing. And, you know, getting into debt is can be a very, trying thing, but I want to honestly say, I think this guy went a little overboard. **Thomas** (00:22:34:01 - 00:22:41:02): I think that phrasing, definitely makes sense, given the circumstances. He went a little overboard with the gambling. **Chip** (00:22:41:05 - 00:22:45:18): And then went a little overboard with the board. **Thomas** (00:22:45:20 - 00:22:56:09): And I think the, the cruise line security team, had trouble. Capo Diaz. **Chip** (00:22:56:11 - 00:22:58:17): They they did not seize the J. Yeah, they, They did not add at all. Here's the thing. Now, when we when I first read the article, you see the headline, you're like, oh, this guy just jumped off a ship in the middle of the ocean. Yeah. To do that, they were docking, I think. Or like, you know, he was close to shore. I think he could see the shore, you know, and, he could also then see shells that. Sea shells? Yeah. By the sea shore. But, like, I feel like I would jump overboard for much less than a $16,000 gambling debt. **Thomas** (00:23:35:05 - 00:23:39:07): Oh, yeah. Look at how big it is. Honestly. **Chip** (00:23:39:09 - 00:24:03:20): Yes. Okay, here's an exit. Okay. Here's an example of what I would jump off a cruise ship for if like, there's a I just I picture a cruise ship having like big long lines and like waiting periods to, like embark and disembark. And I think they do it in like they, you have like a time period where like, all right, these cabins from 11 to, you know, 12 or you and whatever. So it like does that. But I feel like, I feel like there has to be a lot of waiting in line, you know, like for different to go through customs, do all that stuff. And I would be like, all right, screw this. I'm just jumping overboard. And I'll. Just swim to shore, get an Uber to the airport. Yeah I'm fine. **Thomas** (00:24:19:18 - 00:24:35:21): Yeah. So like, not not to avoid paying taxes on $14,000. Yeah. Or skipping out of 16. But you are literally talking about to save 30 minutes. You're willing to go overboard with your stuff. Depending on how high it is. I think that's fair. I think that's very fair. **Chip** (00:24:35:23 - 00:24:36:20): Yeah. I, I think again, maybe there's a plank. See, I think that this would. Okay. You ready for this? This would expedient a lot of the passengers. And I think it would be, something that they could promote. Royal Caribbean, Carnival Cruise Lines or whatever. Like, hey, now with the new waterslide, now with the new theater that we have, it's like now with a plank, you can jump off with your suitcase to avoid long lines while disembarking. **Thomas** (00:25:04:09 - 00:25:06:17): Express plank checkout. **Chip** (00:25:06:19 - 00:25:13:13): That's what it. Thank the plank express plank checkout. That's a that's exactly what it is. **Thomas** (00:25:13:13 - 00:25:19:18): Yeah. What a great modernization of, pirate techniques. They were good on the seas. They should bring back more of those. **Chip** (00:25:19:23 - 00:25:22:00): Peg legged visionaries. **Thomas** (00:25:23:08 - 00:25:42:05): I never thought about it before, but, like to to get a peg leg, during that period of time in such, like, kind of dirty environment, you really. You really went through it, man. There was a leg removal. There was a healing process the whole time you're on. See, that's, that's tough stuff. **Chip** (00:25:42:07 - 00:25:47:09): I mean, just getting your sea legs in the first place is tough. And then you got to relearn it with one. **Thomas** (00:25:47:15 - 00:25:48:19): Yeah. That is tough. I also love. The $14,000 in cash here. Ship. **Chip** (00:25:55:15 - 00:25:56:04): Yeah. **Thomas** (00:25:56:06 - 00:26:00:21): How what's the most amount of cash you've ever held and why? **Chip** (00:26:00:23 - 00:26:06:16): That's a great question. I'm. I'm. I mean, I guess a couple thousand dollars and I don't even know, like, why that would be, but like me, like, I don't, I don't know. How about you, do you. Is there a yeah, I. **Thomas** (00:26:19:06 - 00:26:28:13): I unless I'm forgetting something which I could easily be, I, I bought a car when I was like, in college. **Chip** (00:26:28:15 - 00:26:29:04): Okay. **Thomas** (00:26:29:06 - 00:26:40:22): For, not to brag, but $2,000 in cash and, went down to the bank, got it handed over an envelope. Doesn't feel like that much, man. **Chip** (00:26:40:23 - 00:26:45:08): No, it really doesn't fit in an envelope. Doesn't feel like it's a life jacket. **Thomas** (00:26:45:13 - 00:26:48:02): It was. It was $2,000 bills. **Chip** (00:26:48:04 - 00:26:50:16): Yeah. What, what kind of car was it? **Thomas** (00:26:50:19 - 00:26:53:01): Toyota Camry, of course. **Chip** (00:26:53:01 - 00:26:54:12): And you still have it today, right? **Thomas** (00:26:54:14 - 00:27:15:06): I honestly would probably still have it. It was an absolute workhorse. But, unfortunately, it was parked on the sidewalk and in the middle of the night or not on the sidewalk, parked on the street by the sidewalk in the middle of the night. And the ambulance driver fell asleep behind the wheel, which is. **Chip** (00:27:15:06 - 00:27:17:12): Hard with those sirens. I'm going to be honest. **Thomas** (00:27:17:14 - 00:27:40:06): Yeah. You got to really have, narcolepsy situation going on. Yeah. But no, like, hit my car, picked up my car on the front of the ambulance, rammed it into, like, 4 or 5 other cars along the way, and, Yeah, like, my my car wasn't even on the same block I went to sleep on. Like, when I, when I went to sleep, when I woke up. **Chip** (00:27:40:08 - 00:27:43:18): Okay, I want to stop you there. I want to ask you a very serious question. **Thomas** (00:27:43:23 - 00:27:45:15): Yeah. **Chip** (00:27:45:17 - 00:27:49:15): Did you crash into an ambulance and then four other cars and then parked on the next block? **Thomas** (00:27:49:20 - 00:27:53:04): Did I in reverse? **Chip** (00:27:53:06 - 00:27:54:03): Yeah. **Thomas** (00:27:54:05 - 00:28:17:12): Crashed into an ambulance at any. No. No, I, I truly was asleep and woke up and like one of the funniest things about that experience was my car was mangled dead like it was a total loss. And the people who, like, look at it for insurance purposes, like, they want to pay you as little as possible. And like I joke, you know, it it looks like a crumpled can. Like a can. You were going to recycle. It just got, they knocked off significant value from the car because they said there was scratches. Non, accident related on the driver's side door, which I'm just like this whole thing just got like. **Chip** (00:28:38:16 - 00:28:39:13): It's a dead. **Thomas** (00:28:39:19 - 00:28:52:09): It's like, on the exact panel where it slammed into a Subaru. They're like, these scratches were there beforehand. We're going to knock off hundred. Like, I just remember seeing things like that on the the value report. **Chip** (00:28:52:14 - 00:28:58:18): That's like doing an autopsy on a guy that had a heart attack, and then you're like, you also had an ingrown toenail. So. 00:28:58:20 - 00:29:00:18 UNRESOLVED – Yeah. **Thomas** (00:29:00:20 - 00:29:11:01): Yeah. It really, how it was attributed was a little farcical. And I, you know, I tried to argue with them, but there's no arguing that those folks did what they said. **Chip** (00:29:11:01 - 00:29:24:08): Goes, I will say, I think from now on, I am just going to. And I don't want to like, share how wealthy I am and how well I'm doing. But I think you're okay. We talk about wearing Hawaiian shirts. **Thomas** (00:29:24:10 - 00:29:27:13): We don't just talk about a chip. We check us out. **Chip** (00:29:27:15 - 00:29:56:07): Yeah. What if we just started convincing people to start walking around with an envelope filled with $2,000, a cash at all times? Just the power you feel, but then also the awareness you have because you going to be on it. I think if everybody in this country to this right now would walk around with a an envelope filled with $2,000 in cash, yeah, I think we'd be a lot more respectful of each other and we'd all feel a little bit better. And, you know, I think maybe that's that's the difference. That's what it makes. I mean, everybody carry around an envelope filled with dirty, dirty cash. **Thomas** (00:30:06:12 - 00:30:08:00): Let's bring cash back. **Chip** (00:30:08:02 - 00:30:09:10): Yeah. **Thomas** (00:30:09:12 - 00:30:21:21): I know the credit cards are doing it, but we can do it. Walk around with a little moolah. I'm afraid my street vendor, Taco and Tag would go through the roof, though. That kind of access to just some singles? **Chip** (00:30:21:23 - 00:30:24:02): Yeah. Could you imagine? Yeah. Where would you. **Thomas** (00:30:24:02 - 00:30:27:01): Keep two grand cash? It's not fitting in a wallet chip. **Chip** (00:30:27:03 - 00:30:33:15): Yeah. It's like, do you get one of those, like those little straps, like under your shirt that like traveler's where. **Thomas** (00:30:33:17 - 00:30:38:21): I like that. Where, like, we're checks. What? We're traveler's checks. Do you remember traveler's checks? **Chip** (00:30:38:23 - 00:30:43:10): Yeah, vaguely. I think I use them once, maybe like on some trip when I was younger, I. **Thomas** (00:30:43:10 - 00:30:50:23): Didn't understand the purpose of them then, and I certainly don't understand the purpose of them now. Was it just like a pre credit card thing? **Chip** (00:30:51:01 - 00:31:06:03): Yeah, to a certain extent, I think it was like something where we should look into it. I want to look into this. Maybe we can, maybe we can do a deep dive, some episode, talk about what travel checks were because. Yeah. So I think it was basically because like you didn't want to carry cash maybe like especially in a foreign land, land or just anywhere. And because it was based, I think it was basically like, I mean, I guess like a check, like it was like cash you had to sign, I guess, like, do you mean like. **Thomas** (00:31:16:18 - 00:31:18:06): Yeah, but like what? I mean. **Chip** (00:31:18:08 - 00:31:27:13): It was just that extra step. So if you if somebody mugged you and stole your traveler's checks, I guess they wouldn't be able to easily have used them. **Thomas** (00:31:27:13 - 00:31:31:04): They must have to have checked the Ida ID or something. **Chip** (00:31:31:04 - 00:31:41:08): Okay, you know what I'm calling it right now. Yeah. Next episode for next week, I'm going to do a little deep dive. I want to find out the history of traveler's checks. What the H was going on there? **Thomas** (00:31:41:10 - 00:31:42:02): Yeah. **Chip** (00:31:42:04 - 00:31:50:23): Stay tuned. You're going to find out about what? What travel checks were why we use them. And if you can still use them today we're going to find out. **Thomas** (00:31:51:01 - 00:32:02:16): My goodness. I think if you really want people to stay on their toes, you're carrying the two grand around in an old timey burlap sack with a dollar sign on it. **Chip** (00:32:02:19 - 00:32:08:23): Honestly, I liked my envelope idea. Yours just, you just went from good to great. That's all I say. **Thomas** (00:32:09:00 - 00:32:20:14): Or. I mean, and I think this is actually what's happening in the modern day equivalent. You take that $2,000, get a big old gold chain, and then you wear that around. **Chip** (00:32:20:16 - 00:32:30:23): I like that, or you take that $2,000, by a shirt. One shirt with patterns that are so complicated. **Thomas** (00:32:31:01 - 00:32:33:16): Dan flashes. **Chip** (00:32:33:18 - 00:32:51:05): So anyway, I think the moral of the story here, getting back to it, is no matter how much cash you carry on your person, they're they're there for you and far between. But there are right times to jump off the deck of a cruise ship. And I think we've outlined a few just now. If you have any other ideas, let us know. When is another appropriate time to jump off a cruise ship. **Thomas** (00:32:55:17 - 00:32:58:22): Ooh, love, love on the rocks. **Chip** (00:32:59:02 - 00:33:13:01): Love on the rocks I think like I dropped my Blues Traveler CD off the side. Yeah, got to go get it. You know, I think it's. Yeah, I think there are, there are certain times I think most times it's not appropriate to jump over. **Thomas** (00:33:13:05 - 00:33:14:02): Yeah. Unhelpful. **Chip** (00:33:14:04 - 00:33:31:18): Yeah. Next week you're going to learn about the history traveler's checks and when and when it's not appropriate to jump over the side of a cruise ship. All we're doing is given tips. Thomas. All we're doing is providing the world with useful information. **Thomas** (00:33:31:20 - 00:33:38:20): And you're going to do your in person expo, a, documenting your first jump off of a cruise ship balcony. **Chip** (00:33:38:22 - 00:33:42:02): Yeah. My, my one man show, overboard. **Thomas** (00:33:42:02 - 00:33:45:20): Underpaid chips, big dip. Yeah, I love it. **Chip** (00:33:45:21 - 00:33:50:05): Speaking of do's and don'ts, should we get to the survey? **Thomas** (00:33:50:07 - 00:34:06:01): Let's get to the survey. This was absolutely fascinating. Dude, I'm glad you found this. Yeah. Chip found an article where basically they outlined. They just surveyed a ton of travelers to ask what social norms they kind of ditch while they're on vacation. **Chip** (00:34:06:03 - 00:34:30:17): Yeah, they surveyed, 2000 American travelers. One traveler. For every dollar that Tom has spent on that Toyota Camry. That's how much it was. And basically the gist was it's like, Americans. And now they're just doing American. So I guess could be anybody. But I think we know there's different norms, but it's like Americans just ditch these things, these social norms, when they're on vacation. Like we all do things as adults on a daily basis to make sure we are staying healthy. We're being productive individuals. And these are all the things that people are like, yeah, we're not doing that. I'm on vacation for a week. Yeah, not taking care of any of that. All right. So here we go. Some of these things I thought were kind of crazy. Some of them are like, yeah, you should. And I and I'm mad that it's not a higher percentage of people. **Thomas** (00:34:53:11 - 00:34:54:03): Right. **Chip** (00:34:54:05 - 00:35:27:21): 50% of the people, half of them, avoid work emails while they're on vacation. They don't open their work email at all. 50% of people. That seems low to me like you're on and that. See, that's the problem. Thomas. I if this was like Europeans, you would probably be like, 90% avoid their work email because they're like, yeah, we're on vacation and we're healing our bodies and minds, but we're just these mice on wheels that were like, well, we should check in at least once a day and just look to see what Bill from accounting is doing. And, so but about half the people avoid the working mess. What do you think about that? What's what what are your what are your thoughts on that? **Thomas** (00:35:34:14 - 00:35:53:01): I think it goes back to what we talked about a couple weeks ago, with people being too scared to take their paid time off. I don't think I don't think most Americans get true vacations. You know, the the you have two weeks off a year where you can do anything you want. You're not beholden to the company that's kind of gone away. It's a lot of unlimited paid time off or an unlimited time off. It's not paid time off. And but you're still required to get all your stuff done. Yeah. So I, I think it's not ideal, but would I rather have to check my emails a couple of times and get to go on a sick trip or not? I'm still going, but it's not ideal. And I'm I'm actually like, you know, I think the 50% that's, that's healthier than I might have even guessed. **Chip** (00:36:21:11 - 00:36:41:12): Now, 60% of the people, Thomas, when they're on vacation, they sort of issue regular tasks that they do in their everyday lives, like working out, straightening up around the house, or if they're away somewhere, like just straightening up in general. So about 60%, just those regular tasks. They're not doing them. No. Working out. No. None of that. Are you a workout on vacation guy? Probably. **Thomas** (00:36:43:17 - 00:36:52:00): I, I can't think of a time I've been to, like a hotel gym and or and it's like, if I'm traveling for work, that's different. Like, I kind of stay. **Chip** (00:36:52:01 - 00:36:54:20): Yeah, when I'm doing comedy, like, I'll, I'll stop down to the gym. **Thomas** (00:36:54:20 - 00:37:04:14): Yeah, but if I'm on vacation, I'm getting my exercise in different ways. We're hiking, swimming, doing activities, that kind of stuff. **Chip** (00:37:04:14 - 00:37:05:21): Jumping off cruise ships. **Thomas** (00:37:05:21 - 00:37:17:02): Doing a cruise ship drop. Yeah, but I did not get on a plane and pair resort to do my 100% normal routine. I just. **Chip** (00:37:17:04 - 00:37:36:21): I think sometimes the when the weather's really nice, it's like, oh, I kind of want to work out. So I might do that. But yeah, like I'm not lifting weights. I'm not doing the, the, the ab exercises or the push ups or anything like that. I will say like I will go for a run if, like I'm in a place where I do like that, it's like I enjoy it, especially like a morning run, if I'm especially along the water, like when even when we go to the shore. Yeah, it's like one of my favorite things. Like we go for a long walks on the beach or like, we will go for a bike ride on the boardwalk, or I'll get up and go for a nice long run on the boardwalk because it's it's fun, you know, I enjoy that. **Thomas** (00:37:48:11 - 00:37:57:02): Yeah. No. And that's special. That's something you, you know, can't necessarily do at home. It's experience that run. But an indoor gym at a marriott I. **Chip** (00:37:57:02 - 00:37:57:17): Can. **Thomas** (00:37:57:19 - 00:38:07:21): I can match that almost any day of the week. Maybe I should rethink it I don't know. Do you think you you might have a better trip if you're, you know, feeling primed physically? **Chip** (00:38:07:21 - 00:38:11:22): Well, I will say let me get to the next stat. And this might have something to do with it. **Thomas** (00:38:12:02 - 00:38:12:15): Okay. **Chip** (00:38:12:17 - 00:38:28:02): Is that two thirds of people okay. Almost two thirds of people, eat out every meal, which makes sense if you're obviously if you don't have a kitchen situation, but like two thirds eat one meal and 23% of the people eat dessert with every single meal. **Thomas** (00:38:28:04 - 00:38:30:03): The dessert. Surprising. **Chip** (00:38:30:05 - 00:38:45:11): Right? So it's I'll throw in more desserts, I think at on vacation. Not always, but it's it's something that maybe I want to work out a little bit more. If I'm throwing those brownie sundaes back every day, I try. **Thomas** (00:38:45:15 - 00:39:00:23): I'm trying to think I and I think this is actually that's probably true. Like I never ordered dessert at restaurants back home, but I can think of a couple of desserts. I've had, you know, in Hawaii, specifically hula pies, maybe. **Chip** (00:39:01:01 - 00:39:02:13): A little sweet treat of a hula pie. **Thomas** (00:39:02:13 - 00:39:04:20): Nice little sweet treat of a hula pie. **Chip** (00:39:04:21 - 00:39:06:22): What's a hula pot? What's. What do we got in a hula? **Thomas** (00:39:07:00 - 00:39:12:15): Hula pie, if I'm remembering correctly, is kind of like just a big slice of ice cream cake. **Chip** (00:39:12:17 - 00:39:13:06): Okay? **Thomas** (00:39:13:08 - 00:39:33:08): And it's got chocolate sauce. It's got nuts on it. It's got a little bit of whipped cream, and it's just like, everybody gets a spoon and you just start digging into, like the slice ice cream cake. And I remember it being really, really nice. I think there's like, I forget, like, it might be a cookie crust, like a cookie pie crust on it. **Chip** (00:39:33:09 - 00:39:34:13): I love that. **Thomas** (00:39:34:15 - 00:39:45:06): Yeah. And that's something like, you know, probably not doing any other place. Like, I'm just not a dessert guy. Me meals are so big at restaurants, like, yeah, I'm gonna bomb a dessert afterwards. **Chip** (00:39:45:06 - 00:39:45:20): **Thomas** (00:39:46:00 - 00:39:48:18): We always look, but very rarely will I ever. **Chip** (00:39:48:18 - 00:39:49:17): Get to go for it. **Thomas** (00:39:49:17 - 00:39:51:19): Yeah, yeah. Okay. **Chip** (00:39:51:21 - 00:39:55:20): We're getting we're getting off a tangent here. Are you a coffee after dinner, guy? **Thomas** (00:39:55:22 - 00:40:01:10): Never have been. Don't get it. Don't get it, I have. Have you ever had an off a gateau? **Chip** (00:40:01:12 - 00:40:11:16): Oh, wait, is that I literally, literally it was Kim's birthday, two weeks ago. Yeah, we went out with a couple, and when we go out with this couple, we usually get dessert. **Thomas** (00:40:11:17 - 00:40:12:12): Yeah. **Chip** (00:40:12:14 - 00:40:17:16): And it's the one where it's basically just like ice cream or gelato where they pour an espresso over it. **Thomas** (00:40:17:16 - 00:40:19:00): Right? Yeah. **Chip** (00:40:19:02 - 00:40:19:18): Is that what it is? **Thomas** (00:40:19:18 - 00:40:22:10): Yeah, it's it's ice cream and espresso. **Chip** (00:40:22:12 - 00:40:30:03): It's. I literally had it for the first time two weeks ago, and it was, I'm going to call it, divine, super delightful. **Thomas** (00:40:30:03 - 00:40:42:02): It's really it's really good. I will say that's the exception. Like, I can I don't normally do dessert. I don't normally do coffee afterwards. Yeah, but if it's an early dinner and then off to God. Oh come on, that's that's really nice. **Chip** (00:40:42:04 - 00:40:53:01): I love the idea of coffee after dinner. It's like I always want it. Like when the waiter. Because I do want a coffee. I'm like, I would love a coffee right now. Yeah, but I know that six hours later. **Thomas** (00:40:53:05 - 00:40:53:14): Yeah. **Chip** (00:40:53:14 - 00:41:03:07): It's going to be three in the morning. And I'm going to be, organizing my basement and just going crazy bouncing off the walls. So I know I, that I can't do. **Thomas** (00:41:03:07 - 00:41:05:04): It like the old lady from Something About Mary. **Chip** (00:41:05:10 - 00:41:07:22): Yes. She gets the speed magnet. **Thomas** (00:41:07:22 - 00:41:09:02): Yeah, exactly. **Chip** (00:41:09:02 - 00:41:16:12): That magnet is doing her thing lifting up the couch. I it it it gets my magnet. It's my. It brings my inner magnet. **Thomas** (00:41:16:12 - 00:41:17:22): You can do a decaf, though. **Chip** (00:41:17:23 - 00:41:18:11): You could. **Thomas** (00:41:18:16 - 00:41:29:22): You can do a decaf, I think. Yeah. That's a feels nice too. I'm rethinking a couple of things I do just in general, a nice decaf coffee after a meal that that sounds sounds delightful. Chip. **Chip** (00:41:30:00 - 00:41:45:16): Yeah, I will say, I was down in the Dominican Republic a number of years ago. About 15 years ago. And, after, like the second or third day, I was like, boy, I'm having some tummy troubles right now. Like, yeah, nothing crazy, like, oh, I got food poisoning or anything like that. But I was like, sometimes I go. And then I realized it was because they just had these, like at all times, these just coffee setups everywhere with like, espresso and all that. And at the time, I was not a coffee drinker at all. **Thomas** (00:41:57:11 - 00:41:58:04): **Chip** (00:41:58:06 - 00:42:01:07): But it was just like, oh, hey, free coffee. It's like. And they're tiny little cups. **Thomas** (00:42:01:09 - 00:42:01:17): Yeah. **Chip** (00:42:01:21 - 00:42:07:12): Like, I could do this. And then just. Boy, that was. That's not a way to introduce coffee. Your system. Thomas. Just. **Thomas** (00:42:07:12 - 00:42:08:15): Yeah. That's a great time. Yeah, sure. **Chip** (00:42:08:17 - 00:42:13:00): So as you want. All right, speaking of churning, let's keep churning. **Thomas** (00:42:13:02 - 00:42:14:13): Let's keep, **Chip** (00:42:14:15 - 00:42:24:23): When Americans are on vacation, 54% say they rarely stick to a budget. And a lot of them use their credit cards a lot more than normal. So we're just spending left and right one of. **Thomas** (00:42:24:23 - 00:42:46:09): The most impressive things I've ever seen in my whole life. We were in Cabo or not. Cabo. Where were we? We were in Cancun a couple of years ago, and we were at this, like resort right there on the water. And a waiter came around and was like, offering this group of women drinks. And, one of the women was like, oh, no thanks. I already had, the drink I budgeted for this afternoon. And I was like, this woman is on a trip she can afford and confidently, articulated the plan she had for how she's going to do this vacation and still have fun on a budget. It was one of the most impressive things I've ever seen. My mind was blown. **Chip** (00:43:10:11 - 00:43:18:03): That is self-control. And like, by budget. Do you think she meant monetary or just like I'm only having one drink today? **Thomas** (00:43:18:05 - 00:43:32:10): If that was the only portion of the conversation I heard, I could have gone either way. But no, it was just like I. She budgeted, like, you know, $20 for beverages during this lunch pool, pool time. **Chip** (00:43:32:12 - 00:43:33:10): Good for her, man. **Thomas** (00:43:33:15 - 00:43:49:09): Yeah. I was just like, Holy crap. I just wish there was a confidence that came with it. She was just like, I know what I'm doing. She just seemed very, very real and confident in her own skin in the moment. And I remember being like, I've never done that on vacation. **Chip** (00:43:49:11 - 00:43:50:08): No. **Thomas** (00:43:50:10 - 00:44:10:02): No, I've never even. I mean, like there was when I was younger, you would for sure. And like the goal was just to do everything for as cheap as possible. But right in my, my current day, it's kind of like I've gotten myself on this financial roller coaster for the next seven days, and I'm just along for the ride. We'll see what happens by the end of it. **Chip** (00:44:12:01 - 00:44:18:19): Throw your hands up and say, we. That's all we got. Yeah, I get it, I get you. All right. So speaking of throwing your hands up. **Thomas** (00:44:18:21 - 00:44:19:22): Yep. **Chip** (00:44:20:00 - 00:44:48:20): When Americans are on vacation, two thirds of them say that they don't reply to any text or emails that aren't like life. You know, life, right? You know? So even just like, even from friends or whatever, they're just like, yeah, I see it. Yeah, I'm not going to get back to them. I'm on vacation and a third of those third of people say they just avoid text and emails altogether, so they don't even look like they're not even engaging, which, which is good for them. **Thomas** (00:44:48:22 - 00:44:58:04): Yeah, that's really impressive. But I think, I think if I'm understanding this correctly, it's not that like two thirds of them don't. They just don't feel like they have to. Right? **Chip** (00:44:58:05 - 00:45:00:22): They don't feel like they have to. Yeah. It's not. Yes. It's not. **Thomas** (00:45:00:22 - 00:45:01:11): Optional. **Chip** (00:45:01:14 - 00:45:04:09): To them too. Yes. Yes exactly I gotcha I. **Thomas** (00:45:04:09 - 00:45:08:16): Think that's true. It's but the truth is it's always true, you know. Yeah. **Chip** (00:45:08:18 - 00:45:18:00): Especially if I'm out of the time zone. I don't need to get right back to you about your sweater or whatever. You're. I get a lot of sweater text, Thomas. That's what most of my texts are about, are sweaters. **Thomas** (00:45:18:03 - 00:45:21:12): You get real quiet on the text front during the summer months, don't you? **Chip** (00:45:21:13 - 00:45:36:14): Yeah. It really it's just a lot of, crickets. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of that. What's the word I'm looking for? I just had a word that I want to say. I can picture it. I was going to say a dust bowl, a, one of the things called that where they where they roll. I see him in LA. **Thomas** (00:45:36:14 - 00:45:37:21): That tumbleweed. **Chip** (00:45:38:01 - 00:46:05:03): That tumbleweed. That's. I was tumbleweed is what I was looking for. Thomas. Tumbleweed. Speaking of tumbleweeds, this has nothing to do with tumbleweeds. Okay, here's the one that I. I'm going to say right off the bat, I take issue with. Okay. And I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm just saying I do the complete opposite. All right, 42% of people say their favorite thing about vacation is sleeping in. I'm not a sleeping guy. I'm. I'm just not a sleeping guy in general. Yeah. And, especially on vacation, like, I'm excited to be alive. I'm, Yeah, I'm ready to go. I don't want to sleep the day away. I'll just leave the day away when it's a work day. **Thomas** (00:46:20:04 - 00:46:20:15): Yeah. 00:46:20:15 - 00:46:22:08 UNRESOLVED – Yeah, I think. Yeah, I don't know, I my, my wife is in that camp. She loves sleeping in. That's part of being a vacation. But that's also just part of not having work. I think maybe that more is aligned with getting to control your schedule. **Chip** (00:46:35:15 - 00:46:36:10): Yes. **Thomas** (00:46:36:12 - 00:46:52:00): And not feeling the need to have to pre arrange it. Like being able to wake up when you feel like waking up and then do what you feel like you want to do. That is part of the intoxication of being I'm on vacation. **Chip** (00:46:52:02 - 00:46:54:04): I get it, I totally get it. **Thomas** (00:46:54:04 - 00:46:56:02): I like calling all your own shots. **Chip** (00:46:56:03 - 00:47:02:17): Yeah. 30. I think this is fun. 36% of people say their favorite thing is forgetting what day of the week it is. **Thomas** (00:47:02:17 - 00:47:23:01): That's a remarkable feeling. That's a remark I think you kind of have to. It's something people say a lot. I think it's something that's been going around on like vacation. Social media is like this and not knowing what day it is you're if you really don't know what day it is, what what are you doing? Like, you know what day it is not needing to know what day it is. That's nice. **Chip** (00:47:24:04 - 00:47:27:07): Right? You may need some cognitive tests. This is what we're saying. **Thomas** (00:47:27:07 - 00:47:37:22): Yeah. It's just like, Yeah, maybe. Maybe Mr. Biden had a couple of days where he was truly on vacation in the white House, during his term. You know what I mean? **Chip** (00:47:38:00 - 00:47:49:23): Exactly. And. Yeah. And you're just like, all right, like, hey, I think it's here's the thing with me, too. Like, I'm always I try not to think about it too much, but I'm always thinking, like, all right, I only got three days left. I only got two days that. **Thomas** (00:47:49:23 - 00:47:51:03): It's really challenging. **Chip** (00:47:51:08 - 00:48:05:19): And I try not to do that. I'm like, hey, I got a couple. Like when we were up in Portland this year, this year ago, it was just nice because we had a nice long stretch. It was like five days and like I just sort of clicked it off and was, yeah, all right. I know I have a couple sleeps here in this, hotel. I'm pretty excited about it. **Thomas** (00:48:07:17 - 00:48:10:11): My, my last day in Hawaii is always pretty tough. **Chip** (00:48:10:13 - 00:48:11:10): It's it's got it. Yeah. **Thomas** (00:48:11:10 - 00:48:27:05): It's it's it's pretty tough. But, you know, the more you train yourself, the more you do these kinds of things. You can start delaying. Like when that feeling starts setting in and just really being present, really being in the moment. Dude, we're going to have so much fun in Hawaii. I'm very, very excited. **Chip** (00:48:27:09 - 00:48:29:00): I can't wait. **Thomas** (00:48:29:02 - 00:48:33:01): Thinking about all the things we're going to do. It is going to be fantastic. **Chip** (00:48:33:05 - 00:48:35:04): Thomas. I dug a little deeper. **Thomas** (00:48:35:08 - 00:48:35:20): Yep. **Chip** (00:48:35:22 - 00:48:42:16): And I found out some other facts and some other statistics from I surveyed a number of people. **Thomas** (00:48:42:18 - 00:48:46:03): Right. You did your own research. This is not part of the article. **Chip** (00:48:46:07 - 00:48:56:19): I did my own research. That these are other things that people sort of leave by the wayside or that they do that they normally don't do when they're living their regular lives. Okay. **Thomas** (00:48:56:21 - 00:48:57:06): Okay. **Chip** (00:48:57:10 - 00:49:01:07): 48% of people just avoid all personal hygiene in general. There's no deodorant, there's no showering, there's no brushing of the teeth. **Thomas** (00:49:06:12 - 00:49:07:17): You're on vacation, Chip. **Chip** (00:49:07:20 - 00:49:18:08): Yeah, 50% of 57% of the people shoplift big ticket items while they're on vacation. Constantly. Just the five finger discount all the time. **Thomas** (00:49:18:11 - 00:49:20:23): That's a really relaxed view on shopping. **Chip** (00:49:21:00 - 00:49:36:02): This is, alarming. 63% of Americans on vacation say they they'll see an elderly person on vacation, and they'll do that thing where the one guy gets down on his hands and knees behind him, and the other guy pushes them over and knocks them over. **Thomas** (00:49:36:03 - 00:49:37:08): Wow. **Chip** (00:49:37:08 - 00:49:44:23): 60, 63% do that to an elderly person when they see them on vacation. Wow. Yeah, that's a 37. Was that. **Thomas** (00:49:45:01 - 00:49:45:22): That's dangerous. **Chip** (00:49:46:02 - 00:49:59:22): 62% say that they, give away the ending of that catfish documentary on Netflix just openly to people while they're on vacation. They just tell everybody what happens. Who was doing it the whole time? I don't think that's fair. **Thomas** (00:50:00:01 - 00:50:01:22): That's not nice. That's a spoiler. **Chip** (00:50:02:00 - 00:50:22:00): Yeah. 59% of people, will tickle a policeman against his will. Seems dangerous. This is a lower percentage, but still high for what? I thought it would be. 16% of Americans on vacation say that while they're on vacation, they will at one point attempt to kidnap one of the Harlem Globetrotters. **Thomas** (00:50:22:02 - 00:50:23:15): It's a high value target. **Chip** (00:50:23:17 - 00:50:26:09): It is very high. That very tall value target. **Thomas** (00:50:26:10 - 00:50:31:01): Can you imagine the Liam Neeson movie where he's got to get a Globetrotter back. **Chip** (00:50:31:03 - 00:50:37:17): And it's just him doing all of that crazy stuff, but it's just the song Sweet Georgia Brown in the background. The fact that. **Thomas** (00:50:37:19 - 00:50:43:20): He's like, I've got a very specific set of skills to rescue a man with a very specific set of skills is. 00:50:43:20 - 00:50:49:08 UNRESOLVED – He said, yes. **Chip** (00:50:49:10 - 00:50:54:13): Thomas, 55% of Americans, when they're on vacation will start a school band. **Thomas** (00:50:54:15 - 00:50:56:12): Oh my gosh, you got to get the horns in there. **Chip** (00:50:56:16 - 00:51:09:17): They put up fliers, they have a rehearsal. They will. 55% of Americans, over half Americans, start a school band every time they're on vacation. 68% of Americans use the phrase take it sleazy at least thrice daily. **Thomas** (00:51:09:19 - 00:51:11:22): That makes sense to me. I can vouch for that. **Chip** (00:51:11:22 - 00:51:19:20): And finally, 11% of Americans say that they will cut the brakes on their boss, Greg's F-150. **Thomas** (00:51:19:20 - 00:51:26:09): This is why Greg keeps advocating for reduced vacation time. **Chip** (00:51:26:11 - 00:51:31:22): Yeah, yeah, those those brake lines don't cut themselves. And he knows who's doing it. **Thomas** (00:51:32:00 - 00:51:43:07): He's put two and two together. He's done the research, he's seen the vacation calendar. He's looked at his bills and his instant rates. He knows what's going on. Greg's not a a dim bulb. **Chip** (00:51:43:09 - 00:51:44:06): No, he is not. **Thomas** (00:51:44:12 - 00:51:48:10): But he has been in 55 accidents. **Chip** (00:51:48:12 - 00:51:49:09): Yeah. **Thomas** (00:51:49:11 - 00:51:51:11): Over the course of the last calendar year. **Chip** (00:51:51:11 - 00:51:53:08): And most of them are during vacation season. Patterns. Thomas. Yeah. So there you go. Those are the things that Americans that we do on vacation and hey I, I salute 90% of them. **Thomas** (00:52:04:04 - 00:52:19:00): That's fascinating. Is there anything that you see here in the numbers that you feel like I probably need to adapt this this is something I don't do. I, I'm seeing that a lot of people are doing it. Like, how does this change the way you want to vacation? **Chip** (00:52:19:02 - 00:52:37:06): I will say this when it comes to technology like emails and text work or otherwise. Yeah, I'm still looking at my phone sometime. I do try to put it away a lot more, but like, I would love to, I would love to just, put keep the phone in the nightstand at the hotel. **Thomas** (00:52:37:11 - 00:52:39:22): Yeah, it would be great. But then you don't have the pictures. **Chip** (00:52:40:02 - 00:52:42:03): You don't have the photos. That's all. That's what I. **Thomas** (00:52:42:03 - 00:52:45:12): Like. Yeah, that's our camera. That's the. That's the tricky. **Chip** (00:52:45:14 - 00:52:46:08): Yeah. **Thomas** (00:52:46:10 - 00:52:47:21): That's the tricky part of that. **Chip** (00:52:47:23 - 00:52:52:07): Do you just put it on airplane mode for a little bit and check it like once a day? Just make sure everything's cool. 00:52:52:11 - 00:52:53:07 UNRESOLVED – Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it's that. How about you? Is there anything you saw in the numbers now? **Thomas** (00:52:56:16 - 00:53:12:12): It just it does. It does bums me out that like, I do know that I'm on my phone when I'm on vacation. Yeah. Like you try and limited it, but like I do, I cherish the pictures. Yeah, I really do love the pictures. And, you know, I look at them all the time. **Chip** (00:53:12:14 - 00:53:29:05): Oh, I have a surprise for you, Thomas. Next episode. I know we are going to talk next episode about traveler's checks. Yeah I do, I did see another article about vacation photos that I think you're gonna love, that I think the listeners are gonna love. So I'm just going to tease that for for next step. That's all I got to say. **Thomas** (00:53:29:06 - 00:53:31:21): All right. I'm here for that. **Chip** (00:53:31:23 - 00:53:33:21): You know what? You're also here for, Thomas. **Thomas** (00:53:33:23 - 00:53:38:04): I am here for human beings pushing the limits. **Chip** (00:53:38:06 - 00:53:39:15): Yeah. You are? Yeah. **Thomas** (00:53:39:17 - 00:53:45:14): Hey, I'm here for, feats that have never been done by any other person. **Chip** (00:53:45:16 - 00:53:59:01): Nope. Yeah. If you if you, the listeners, the viewers at home, just take a smell. Do you smell that musty kind of old paper smell? That's us cracking open the Guinness Book of World Records. **Thomas** (00:53:59:03 - 00:54:02:15): We're cracking it open. And you know what I'm going to do while we crack it open? **Chip** (00:54:02:17 - 00:54:03:10): What's that? **Thomas** (00:54:03:12 - 00:54:13:20): I'm going to get a good old fashioned slather going where we're talking about all these checking out photos, thinking about vacations. Dude, I love getting a little of that scent. **Chip** (00:54:13:22 - 00:54:15:15): Low wine, tropical in there. **Thomas** (00:54:15:18 - 00:54:17:16): Feeling a little. **Chip** (00:54:17:18 - 00:54:21:14): I want to I want to bathe in some world records right now. **Thomas** (00:54:21:16 - 00:54:40:11): Yeah, we've got to. It's world record time every week. Chip and I oh, this is a great slather. Every week, Chip and I pick a world record from the Good book, the Guinness Book of World Records. We're working off the 2025 edition, which is almost not the current edition anymore. 2026 is rolling out right. **Chip** (00:54:40:11 - 00:54:41:01): Around the corner. **Thomas** (00:54:41:05 - 00:54:42:12): It's right around the corner. **Chip** (00:54:42:14 - 00:54:45:13): Tommy, what do you what do you got? What is your what's your world record? **Thomas** (00:54:45:18 - 00:55:03:14): Let me let me tell you my world record is my world record is, as much as it is a feat of humanity, as much as it is an incredible physical thing to do, it is also the test of a marriage. And the test of a connection between two people. **Chip** (00:55:03:16 - 00:55:04:08): Okay. **Thomas** (00:55:04:10 - 00:55:31:11): My world record is the longest motorcycle jump with a passenger jet. Oh, two people, one motorcycle. And I'm gonna give away the spoiler right here it is. A husband and wife team got on the back of a motorcycle and did the longest two person jump of all time. I mean, I can't imagine the trust. I can't imagine the skill. I can't imagine what why you would risk everything you've built together to do this record. But they did it. And do you have any idea what kind of distance they were traveling? If you had to guess what the world record is for the longest two person motorcycle job, what would you think that would be? **Chip** (00:55:53:10 - 00:55:54:19): 100ft? **Thomas** (00:55:54:21 - 00:56:00:15): Dude, it's it's a little further than that. 121ft in eight inches. **Chip** (00:56:00:17 - 00:56:03:05): Geez, I was going high. Two. **Thomas** (00:56:03:05 - 00:56:07:13): I know, not as high as these these daredevils were. **Chip** (00:56:07:15 - 00:56:12:06): It's the good part of a football field. Like that's what, like, you know, over a third of a football field. **Thomas** (00:56:12:06 - 00:56:25:12): It's over 12 basketball hoops stacked end to end like basketball rims. The height ten feet. You look at where that is, you're going 12 more of those. And that's the distance they covered on a motorcycle together. **Chip** (00:56:25:12 - 00:56:26:17): And she's on the back. **Thomas** (00:56:26:21 - 00:56:28:12): She's on the back. **Chip** (00:56:28:13 - 00:56:31:17): This is not a sidecar situation Thomas. This is on the back. **Thomas** (00:56:31:19 - 00:56:33:16): That would be more impressive though I think. **Chip** (00:56:33:16 - 00:56:34:14): Yeah. Yes. **Thomas** (00:56:34:14 - 00:56:36:09): Aerodynamics at play. **Chip** (00:56:36:11 - 00:56:37:04): **Thomas** (00:56:37:16 - 00:56:40:04): There's more wheels. I guess it's not a motorcycle. **Chip** (00:56:40:05 - 00:56:40:18): Yeah. **Thomas** (00:56:40:20 - 00:56:57:11): If a side car's introduced, but, I just keep thinking about how do you get to this point. And they were two stunt people. They met in Australia working on movies. They were both featured in different iterations of the mad Max. Okay, world. They did a lot of. **Chip** (00:56:57:11 - 00:56:59:12): Those Thunderdome or beyond. Sure. **Thomas** (00:56:59:16 - 00:57:06:02): Yeah. So they have a background of this kind of thing, but it's still. **Chip** (00:57:06:04 - 00:57:12:21): So it's not just like one stunt man. He's like, hey, get on. Like she knew what she was getting into and she knew what. **Thomas** (00:57:12:21 - 00:57:27:12): She was getting into. But there is still part of me that feels like this is the test of a relationship. Like, yeah, was he just being like, I'm not sure if this thing's going to work out. I'm going to keep suggesting crazier and crazier things until she breaks up with me. **Chip** (00:57:27:14 - 00:57:28:09): **Thomas** (00:57:28:11 - 00:57:43:01): And eventually he's like, you know what? Let's do it. Let's do the biggest motorcycle jump we can possibly do. Yeah. And he was like, she's for sure going to bat back out. And then she did it. And now they're together forever. **Chip** (00:57:43:03 - 00:57:47:23): I, dated grow my 20s that I said, hey, do you want to start juggling chainsaws with me? And that was my way of saying, look, this is it's not you. It's me. You know? But she, she got the message. She left. **Thomas** (00:57:57:02 - 00:58:00:18): Most of them did. Chip, if we're being honest. Yes. Most of them. 00:58:00:18 - 00:58:02:05 UNRESOLVED – Wanted. **Chip** (00:58:02:07 - 00:58:07:17): Yeah, change, all or otherwise. But so 150. That's amazing. Like what. **Thomas** (00:58:07:19 - 00:58:10:08): 120, 120, 131. **Chip** (00:58:10:08 - 00:58:21:04): I'm sorry, 121. Feel like do you think at some point though, like as he's approaching the ramp, his wife is just like car, car. Wow. Watch that. **Thomas** (00:58:22:19 - 00:58:30:14): Car. Can you imagine? Yeah. A backseat driver in this situation. Go a little faster. Going a little fast. Go! Slow down, slow down. **Chip** (00:58:30:16 - 00:58:32:01): Let's hit it. **Thomas** (00:58:32:03 - 00:58:34:11): It's a little bumpy. A little. **Chip** (00:58:34:11 - 00:58:55:07): Loud. Do you think they communicated while they were in the air in those 120ft. Like what was said. We're just like like they're just up there. They're, they're at 60ft. They're just overtop of those school busses or whatever. They're jumping over. And yeah, he like one of them just said, so what do you want to do for dinner tonight? I just you would do pizza. You want to do burritos? **Thomas** (00:58:59:12 - 00:59:03:15): We're not doing leftovers again. No not after this jump. **Chip** (00:59:03:17 - 00:59:04:09): Yeah. Yeah. You know. Yeah. **Thomas** (00:59:06:04 - 00:59:09:04): No it's you can't have a domestic moment up there. **Chip** (00:59:09:06 - 00:59:11:17): Yeah I think so. I think it's intimate. It's very. **Thomas** (00:59:11:17 - 00:59:24:15): Intimate. It's very intimate. It's very gravity defying. But yeah man I just, I just saw that and I was like he's not together. What's the what's the scariest thing you and Kim ever did? **Chip** (00:59:24:17 - 00:59:29:18): I will say we did. And if this is scary, we took a hot air balloon ride one time. **Thomas** (00:59:29:18 - 00:59:34:08): Wow, that that's terrifying to me. I do not like heights. **Chip** (00:59:34:10 - 00:59:34:22): You okay? Then you're. **Thomas** (00:59:34:22 - 00:59:37:00): I hate hot area even more. **Chip** (00:59:37:02 - 00:59:42:19): You're gonna hate this story so much more. You're going to hate this story. Feel free to edit it out. **Thomas** (00:59:42:21 - 00:59:43:05): All right. **Chip** (00:59:43:05 - 00:59:58:12): Let's. You don't have to listen to it again. I was I think I was going hard in the paint when we were first dating, and it was like, this is like six months in. I was like, surprised. I was like, we're going on a hot air balloon, right? And it was great. And it was like, beautiful. And it was much more peaceful than you think. And they say that because because there's nothing underneath you. You don't have the scale of like if if you're like up at the top of a building or a ladder like you, you see that depth and you can see it getting smaller and smaller. So yeah, feel very high when you're up there, you just floating and you're looking down over the fields or the trees or whatever. Yeah. And you're up high, but you don't, you can't really get a sense of exactly how high you are. So the brain. **Thomas** (01:00:21:05 - 01:00:22:20): Doesn't even know how to. **Chip** (01:00:22:22 - 01:00:43:23): Exactly. They can't it can't crunch the numbers. Yeah. So you're just floating there. And it was beautiful. It was a beautiful evening. Boom came down. Everything was great. It was this, this older man. And he'd been doing it for like decades. And it was just like it was awesome. Like it was just so much fun. It was about five months later, we turn on the news. There was a horrific hot air balloon accident, and we're like, that looked like that was the hot air balloon that weird? And it was our hot air balloon. And the man, unfortunately, he did not make it. He before you and he say the guy was a hero. He saved the lives of the other people, of the passengers, but didn't know if he like, somehow got them down like, like close enough and they were able to like, jump or whatever. I think and but, yeah. Then he unfortunately, he was not able to make it, but like, what a peaceful, wonderful thing. And then just a couple months later, be like, oh, that literally could have been us. **Thomas** (01:01:20:06 - 01:01:21:03): Oh my. **Chip** (01:01:21:03 - 01:01:22:17): Gosh. I would still do it again, though. **Thomas** (01:01:22:17 - 01:01:33:03): I think you've had, you've had a lot of run ins with people who either were soon to pass or soon to kill. 01:01:33:04 - 01:01:33:18 UNRESOLVED – **Chip** (01:01:33:20 - 01:01:39:19): It happens. It happens a lot. God knows what. What Gloria's done in her life. The lady we met last night. **Thomas** (01:01:39:19 - 01:01:42:23): Oh, yeah. What she's done since it's been. **Chip** (01:01:43:00 - 01:01:46:02): It's been about 12 hours. I don't know, we're rolling it. Fine. Yeah. **Thomas** (01:01:46:05 - 01:01:52:09): God. That's wild. Well, that that's my fact check, but what what are you cooking with today? **Chip** (01:01:52:10 - 01:02:07:17): All right, so this almost goes along with. Boy, I just brought this up. This is crazy. About the the older gentleman flying through the skies. This is the Guinness Book of World Records. The record for the oldest person to fly in a wingsuit. **Thomas** (01:02:07:19 - 01:02:09:03): Really? **Chip** (01:02:09:05 - 01:02:21:17): The oldest person to man to fly in a wingsuit. They did say there there's never been a whole lot of, women that have, like, documented, like, how old they were to, like, do this, or there's almost, like, not a. **Thomas** (01:02:21:19 - 01:02:22:06): Ride. **Chip** (01:02:22:07 - 01:02:33:02): Record for women. So if you know a woman who wants to set a world record, she can get a wingsuit if she's of a certain age. But, we're for this. Do you know you're a wingsuit is right. **Thomas** (01:02:33:04 - 01:02:34:15): Yeah, yeah, I think so. **Chip** (01:02:34:15 - 01:02:42:10): We're. Yeah, it's it's where you zip yourself into a sleeping bag and then jump off a cliff in a Red bull commercial. **Thomas** (01:02:42:12 - 01:02:45:02): Okay? Okay. Yeah. Let's check it out. **Chip** (01:02:45:03 - 01:02:48:23): For this world record, we're going to Norway. **Thomas** (01:02:49:01 - 01:02:50:07): They get one way. **Chip** (01:02:50:09 - 01:02:53:21): Or, as I like to call it, from Vikings to Sky Kings. **Thomas** (01:02:53:23 - 01:02:54:20): Okay. **Chip** (01:02:54:22 - 01:03:08:06): Okay. The oldest person in the world to fly in a wingsuit was. If I'm saying this correctly, Vidar. See, he's a Norwegian man. He was 62 years, 55 days old. **Thomas** (01:03:08:07 - 01:03:17:03): That's significant, because I think the wingsuit. Right. Like it takes strength. You're not just falling. You have to like breakers. **Chip** (01:03:17:03 - 01:03:17:12): Yeah. You, **Thomas** (01:03:17:17 - 01:03:20:03): You have to use your. With your arms. **Chip** (01:03:20:05 - 01:03:21:15): Absolute arms and legs. **Thomas** (01:03:21:15 - 01:03:24:22): That's a lot of shoulder action. So 62 that's I mean that's. **Chip** (01:03:25:02 - 01:03:50:13): A rotator cuff or something like that. Yeah. That's. Yeah. He's you know, so good for him. Yeah. It was September 6th, so almost exactly, two years ago, September 6th, 2023, in iceberg, Norway. Wow. He was in a in an airplane, and he jumped out the wingsuit at 12,500ft. And after flying around for two minutes, that's a two minute flight. That's a long flight just to be. **Thomas** (01:03:51:20 - 01:03:52:23): That's a really long flight. **Chip** (01:03:52:23 - 01:04:15:08): Yeah, right. He then deployed his parachute at 4000ft, so he dropped about 8000ft, in that flight down. And, he did it. So, at 62, he was the oldest to fly in a wingsuit. He also set the record, Thomas, for the oldest person ever to pee in a wingsuit. Because you don't. Matt Thomas. You see? Let's see where we get up there. **Thomas** (01:04:16:18 - 01:04:17:14): Yeah. **Chip** (01:04:17:16 - 01:04:33:23): And, you know, he's he's up in his 60s. They did say witnesses say the flight that he had was nearly perfect. Besides the fact that through the wingsuit, you could see that he still had his, iPhone flashlight on. **Thomas** (01:04:34:01 - 01:04:36:05): That's embarrassing. That's embarrassing. **Chip** (01:04:36:07 - 01:04:38:05): But on brand for somebody who's 62. Yeah. **Thomas** (01:04:38:10 - 01:04:39:11): Dead giveaway. **Chip** (01:04:39:13 - 01:04:45:17): Yeah. And that just goes to show how good Norway's health care system is. **Thomas** (01:04:45:23 - 01:04:46:16): Yeah. **Chip** (01:04:46:18 - 01:04:54:09): If you're 62 and you're like, yeah, I'll jump out of a plane in a tarp, they'll take care of it. If something. I think it's I think it's great. **Thomas** (01:04:55:22 - 01:04:56:13): Yeah. **Chip** (01:04:56:15 - 01:05:10:10): I stay and I will say you can tell that he was the oldest man. They figured it out because, while he was flying the whole two minutes, he was just complaining to the other guys about how woke wing suiting had gotten. Yeah, yeah. And to end up. So congratulations to VRC, the oldest man to ever fly in a wingsuit. 62 years old, 55 days. I did do a little research. I wanted to find out about the first wingsuit ever. **Thomas** (01:05:24:13 - 01:05:25:11): Oh, okay. **Chip** (01:05:25:13 - 01:05:32:01): Okay, just very briefly. There's more history to it. But the first wingsuit ever. You would take a guess what year it was? **Thomas** (01:05:32:03 - 01:05:35:02): I mean, 90, 1996. **Chip** (01:05:35:04 - 01:05:39:12): Very good guess. Ninth, 1912. **Thomas** (01:05:39:14 - 01:05:40:17): What? **Chip** (01:05:40:19 - 01:05:45:17): 1912? Well, I don't think you'll be a surprise when you hear how it ends. **Thomas** (01:05:45:19 - 01:05:47:00): Okay. But like before, you know, before. **Chip** (01:05:49:23 - 01:05:57:19): Modern day wing suiting. Yes. Yeah, I that was I think it became popular in the 90s. Yeah. So with the first ever attempt. **Thomas** (01:05:57:21 - 01:06:03:04): This was a guy who was just like, I've seen birds do it. I know the secret. 01:06:03:06 - 01:06:04:23 UNRESOLVED – **Chip** (01:06:05:01 - 01:06:33:21): In 1912, a French tailor, jumped off the Eiffel Tower, not the top of the Eiffel Tower, but like the basically like the first deck, which is still very high. I forget how high it is, but it's, you know, you're jumping off very high. And he. So he just tailored his own wingsuit. Here's the best part. So he told the police that he was going to throw a dummy off the side, because they're not gonna let him do it, right. He's like, I'm going to throw a dummy off the side. But then he gets up there and basically just ditches the dummy and gets up there himself, and they try to talk him down. They're like, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. And he jumps off. And it was about a 92nd flight and he landed about a half a mile away from the Eiffel Tower. No I'm. Kidding. He just nosedived and went directly down and landed headfirst directly below. It did not work at all. Thomas. He just it was just a a screaming failure. And also, I will say that he was kind of correct. A dummy did jump off the Eiffel Tower. 01:07:17:07 - 01:07:19:13 UNRESOLVED – Okay. Did. **Thomas** (01:07:19:15 - 01:07:22:03): He did launch a dummy off the Eiffel Tower. I mean, what's the thought process. There, chap? **Chip** (01:07:24:15 - 01:07:27:12): It's like somebody's got to do it first. Somebody has to be the. Yeah. **Thomas** (01:07:27:13 - 01:07:28:15): The dummy. **Chip** (01:07:28:17 - 01:07:29:07): Yes. 01:07:29:09 - 01:07:30:20 UNRESOLVED – Why not try it out. See how it works I know. **Thomas** (01:07:33:10 - 01:07:42:07): Yeah, he was just like, well then I have to climb the stairs twice. But he could have saved himself a whole death. Yep. If he would have tried it on the dummy first. **Chip** (01:07:42:09 - 01:07:42:23): Yes. **Thomas** (01:07:42:23 - 01:07:45:17): Which is really all you get. **Chip** (01:07:45:19 - 01:07:46:11): Yeah. That's all. Usually. Usually that's all you get. **Thomas** (01:07:49:15 - 01:08:12:19): Yeah, but I do, God, there's something there. Seems like a much more naive time there. Seems like it's just this thirst to be recognized in Parisian society. Right? Like, I don't know, I can see a lot of different factors going into what eventually led to him doing this bold move. He thought he was going to be famous. He thought he was going to fly. He thought he was going to, be revered by his countrymen. And he became a splat on the lawn. **Chip** (01:08:22:02 - 01:08:24:09): Yes, lace, I believe it's a lace splat. **Thomas** (01:08:24:10 - 01:08:27:12): Yeah. And, on France. **Chip** (01:08:27:14 - 01:08:37:11): But, moving back to 2023, congratulations to v da c. The 62 year old man who is the oldest man to fly in a wingsuit. **Thomas** (01:08:37:16 - 01:08:40:23): That's really impressive. Really impressive. They didn't even want to. **Chip** (01:08:40:23 - 01:08:42:15): So those are your world records, Thomas. **Thomas** (01:08:42:16 - 01:08:53:13): Those are our world records for the day. Now we are on to rules that shan't be broken. We've got another round of sunburnt podcast vacation rules. Chip, what are you working with? **Chip** (01:08:53:17 - 01:09:19:00): This is vacation rule number 78. If you are traveling with a group, keep it to one night of blackout drinking per person. Okay? That's your mulligan. You get one every night in Paradise. Should not have to end with me breaking up a fight between you and a window salesman from Cleveland, right? All we want to do is just get a little buzzed on mojitos all week. We don't need to plan your intervention. Luau. **Thomas** (01:09:24:06 - 01:09:26:13): Intervention, Lou. Ours rough because. **Chip** (01:09:26:13 - 01:09:31:11): It's kind of fun. You get the drums, you get the dancers. But then you got to. You got to read those notes. **Thomas** (01:09:31:11 - 01:09:38:09): It's not an intervention, Lou, that we saw, but we did see an appropriation Lou luau at the end of The Brady Bunch. **Chip** (01:09:38:11 - 01:09:39:19): It should have been entertaining. I will say it should have been intervened. **Thomas** (01:09:42:14 - 01:09:49:07): The Brady Bunch three arc, three episode arc where they went to Hawaii ended with one of the wildest little hours you can even imagine. **Chip** (01:09:49:09 - 01:10:07:21): It was just it was, Vincent Price in, like, saddle shoes and khakis sitting on the sand. And then the Polynesian drummers were just two men who were probably Polynesian. And then just one dude named Hank, who was probably just a grip. And they're like. **Thomas** (01:10:07:21 - 01:10:09:08): Work in those drums. **Chip** (01:10:09:10 - 01:10:16:00): We need a third. Just take your shirt off, Hank. Standing there in your dungarees, and you're going to beat those drums. **Thomas** (01:10:16:02 - 01:10:33:17): And Vincent Price, by the way, who had kidnaped and held captive three children earlier in the episode, was given an amazing job for hoarding ancient Hawaiian artifacts. He became like the head of the museum, after kidnaping children. 01:10:33:19 - 01:10:35:06 UNRESOLVED – Hoarding, Artifacts that did not belong to him. And then, I believe, for helping to get the authorities to look the other way on the kidnaping. Yes. Greg Brady was also given some kind of accolade. **Chip** (01:10:47:19 - 01:10:57:13): Yeah. Which just goes to show Thomas. And I don't mean to undercut this segment. Yeah, but sometimes vacation rules are meant to be broken. **Thomas** (01:10:57:15 - 01:10:59:15): That's true, that's true. **Chip** (01:10:59:17 - 01:11:04:00): But no, I believe you have a vacation rule that should be adhered to. **Thomas** (01:11:04:02 - 01:11:11:11): Oh, I certainly do. And I do enjoy your rule. It's like, keep the train on the tracks, you know? Yeah, it's already doing. **Chip** (01:11:11:12 - 01:11:17:19): One crazy night. We all have that mulligan, whatever. But it's like, I don't need to be babysitting an adult. All for vacation. **Thomas** (01:11:17:23 - 01:11:20:14): And. And what do you mean? Out from. You're on vacation. **Chip** (01:11:20:16 - 01:11:40:13): You're a vacation. That's the thing. You know, I used to do a bit about this, and I had to go off too much. But, yeah, I used to do a bit about this and people didn't buy too much. But I used to say, and I get it, I don't always I like to have a couple cocktails. I'm not a I don't love to like I know some people who just they go to the shore or whatever, and they're just like, drink, drink, drink. Yeah. And it's like, what do you like, enjoy your vacation. It's like the one time I don't necessarily need to drink, do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, I want to just I want to be drinking on days. Like I said, it's kind of like sleeping in. It's like I want to be aware of what's going on right now. Yeah, like I want to just have a good time. **Thomas** (01:11:55:15 - 01:12:00:02): Yeah, yeah. No, I think it's it's it's great. Get a mojito. **Chip** (01:12:00:04 - 01:12:02:13): But yeah a little buzz spaced out. **Thomas** (01:12:02:13 - 01:12:10:11): Have a little, a little buzz going on, but yeah. Yeah. You never want to, you know. Now, can you imagine throwing up on vacation from overindulging? Chip. **Chip** (01:12:10:13 - 01:12:12:01): No, no. **Thomas** (01:12:12:01 - 01:12:19:11): That's that's a that's a one of your worst nights of the year. One of your worst nights of the decade. You don't want that to be on vacation. You don't need it to be. **Chip** (01:12:19:13 - 01:12:20:07): No, no. **Thomas** (01:12:20:09 - 01:12:21:02): Great rule. **Chip** (01:12:21:02 - 01:12:22:20): All right. What's what's what's yours? **Thomas** (01:12:22:22 - 01:12:32:02): My rule is vacation rule number 286. And it involves being, shared hotel room experience. **Chip** (01:12:32:04 - 01:12:34:04): Okay, those could be tight quarters. **Thomas** (01:12:34:07 - 01:12:52:21): Tight quarters. Vacation rule number 286. Keep your portion of the hotel room clean. You don't want your travel mates talking about what a slob you are. While you struggle to use the bathroom in silence. **Chip** (01:12:52:23 - 01:13:06:07): Truer words have never been spent. Two words just trying to quietly use that restroom. And then two feet away, overhearing your roommates talking about what a slob you are. **Thomas** (01:13:06:08 - 01:13:16:03): You want to be clean as a whistle. You want to be silent as a ninja. Those are the two things that would make make me feel comfortable sharing a hotel room with others. **Chip** (01:13:16:05 - 01:13:24:15): Is that our first official t shirt? Clean as a whistle sign is never Summer podcast. **Thomas** (01:13:24:17 - 01:13:25:00): It's on. Podcast. **Chip** (01:13:26:09 - 01:13:49:16): I love that rule, Thomas. It's it's all about being respectful, being somebody you want to travel with somebody again, it's going back to the blackout drunk thing. I don't need to be tripping over your stuff. You're an adult. Act like it. I know that, you know, 59% of people don't want to clean up after themselves on vacation. But, like, take a minute, take a minute. 01:13:49:18 - 01:13:50:02 UNRESOLVED – Yeah. **Thomas** (01:13:50:06 - 01:13:56:01): It is interesting though, because like, if you're in a hotel, somebody literally cleans up after you. **Chip** (01:13:56:03 - 01:13:56:12): Yes. **Thomas** (01:13:56:17 - 01:14:09:22): And I think they do offer that service a to keep their, their place nice and clean, to make sure things don't get out of hand, to make sure they can get eyes in your hotel room once a day. But it's because people don't when they're on vacation. 01:14:09:22 - 01:14:11:04 UNRESOLVED – Yeah they don't clean. **Chip** (01:14:11:04 - 01:14:16:19): Up but it's like is just be a little a little respectful. Goes a long way for everybody else. **Thomas** (01:14:16:20 - 01:14:23:20): Yeah. Yeah I think it's nice when you're sharing a hotel room. You just just got to keep your, your stuff clean. Yeah. You don't want to be that dirty birdy. **Chip** (01:14:23:22 - 01:14:26:19): I love it, Thomas. Excellent. Roll a rule to live by. **Thomas** (01:14:26:22 - 01:14:32:16): Those are some juicy vacation rules. I think we have some even juicier buffet facts this week. **Chip** (01:14:32:18 - 01:14:33:21): So much juice. **Thomas** (01:14:33:21 - 01:15:01:02): We are huge fans of Jimmy Buffett. His lifestyle, what he represents, what he did with his time here on this planet, and we have synthesized all the information we've been able to glean about him to find new and juicy, juicy, juicy facts every week about the man and the life he lives. Chip, what is your Buffett fact this week? **Chip** (01:15:01:04 - 01:15:10:21): Jimmy Buffett never played the Super Bowl halftime show because if he did, the teams would just want to cancel the second half and party. It would just be too much of a vibe, man. They're just cracking skulls, just fighting what they've worked their entire lives for. Yep. The two top teams, physical specimens. Just adrenaline and just just going for it. And then just hearing Cheeseburger and Paradise. They're like, we're not going back out there again. We're. We're taken off. The helmets were thrown on the lions. Let's all go have a look out. **Thomas** (01:15:38:03 - 01:15:48:11): I think Jimmy would have known that because he had noted football fan loved the Saints. He also knew his power though I think he knows he shows up to that Super Bowl. I'm sure they asked him number of times. **Chip** (01:15:48:16 - 01:15:49:05): Yeah. **Thomas** (01:15:49:07 - 01:15:52:07): And he was just like guys do you want to keep this competitive call. **Chip** (01:15:52:07 - 01:15:53:14): Prince. Thank you very much. **Thomas** (01:15:53:15 - 01:15:56:04): Who I mean that guy will keep the intensity up for you. **Chip** (01:15:56:08 - 01:15:58:22): He will. Yeah. How about your, Buffett fact? **Thomas** (01:15:59:04 - 01:16:00:16): Not a lot of people know that. Stone. **Chip** (01:16:00:21 - 01:16:01:20): Okay. **Thomas** (01:16:01:22 - 01:16:07:04): Jimmy Buffett's mustache never got trimmed. It got even. **Chip** (01:16:10:16 - 01:16:16:16): So true. It. Yeah, it was always very even looking. Yeah. And it got even. **Thomas** (01:16:16:18 - 01:16:33:08): Yeah. And like, even when it wasn't on his face, you know, it's not that it's been trimmed, it's that it was just in various incarnations for various reasons going around and setting wrongs right, getting even. **Chip** (01:16:33:09 - 01:16:46:20): Getting people's comeuppance. Yeah. With his facial hair. Amazing. I again, the the amount of research you did for that one. It's just it's unparalleled. And I appreciate that, Thomas. **Thomas** (01:16:46:23 - 01:17:03:17): It's very challenging to say something they never did. You have to fact check the whole entirety of its existence to make sure it didn't do that thing. So, I mean, this was a hypothesis. This was painstaking work, but I think it was worth it 100%. **Chip** (01:17:03:17 - 01:17:05:16): And I salute you for that, buddy. **Thomas** (01:17:05:16 - 01:17:08:10): I mean, we have cruised way over time. **Chip** (01:17:08:10 - 01:17:09:12): Yeah, we got to get out of here. **Thomas** (01:17:09:12 - 01:17:20:11): Yeah, we've got to get out of here. But this was so much fun, man. Thank you for doing this again. And thank you guys for watching for pushing us over that one like that 1 million view mark. Like that's wild. **Chip** (01:17:20:16 - 01:17:21:14): That's crazy. Yeah. **Thomas** (01:17:21:16 - 01:17:44:19): That's wild. It really feels weird to know that's true. And, you know, we got chips and trees. Thanksgiving and Paradise coming up in 69 days. You can get tickets on Scentbird podcast.com and the ticket section, or on Blue Note Hawaii e-commerce website, November 26th. Two shows, an early show and a late show. We're going to be doing a bunch of other stuff that week in a way. Come on out, if you will. You got anything else to to throw in that's coming up this week? **Chip** (01:17:49:09 - 01:17:56:01): No, just, just check out that pod, let people know about it, and, find me at Chip Chantry and all the stuff. **Thomas** (01:17:56:03 - 01:18:00:05): Beautiful. And you can find us on at Sunburnt Pod everywhere. **Chip** (01:18:00:08 - 01:18:01:15): Oh, and we're going to be giving away. **Thomas** (01:18:01:15 - 01:18:02:18): Another big fun. **Chip** (01:18:02:18 - 01:18:15:01): Shirt. Do you want to win a big fun shirt just like this from the good people at Big Fun Shirts? This is super easy. This is all you have to do, okay? All you have to do is just tell them. Thomas, go ahead. Yeah. **Thomas** (01:18:15:01 - 01:18:28:12): So we're going to we're going to, I'm not exactly sure when the video's going to go at, but, follow the follow us on the YouTube channel. We're going to be putting up a short that says something along the lines of, hey, do you want to win a big fun shirt? From the Big Fun Shirt Company. We love these aloha style shirts. And you kind of just get to pick the fabric, and then they make the shirt out of it. Yeah, it's really a fun, interesting experience to be a part of. And we're just giving it away. And all you have to do is just, you know, put a comment down below on the video. That's it. So that's coming up and, yeah, man, this is so fun. Episode 31 in the books, this is the sunburnt podcast where we talk about comedy and tropical travel. Until next time, stay out. Front desk. **Chip** (01:19:03:02 - 01:19:10:12): Hi, this is Mr. Chantry in room 308. I'm having a little trouble with my cable television. Could you tell me what channel spike TV is on, Mr. Chantry? **Thomas** (01:19:10:12 - 01:19:14:02): Spike TV hasn't been around since, like, 2018. **Chip** (01:19:14:07 - 01:19:18:04): Oh, my God, what year is it? How long have you been asleep? **Thomas** (01:19:18:06 - 01:19:20:18): That explains the frosted tips.